Bread I trust your opinion the most when it comes to match making and eye for talent and detail..In your opinion even if the Ali/ Liston were fixed or not could a prime sonny Liston have beaten Ali? I've heard some of the real old school guys say there's no way Ali could beat a prime Sonny..I say Ali all day, just wanted to hear your take? Also Rocky Marciano is considered a all time great champ and seems to get more recognition than Joe Frazier does as his status as all time great heavyweight list..but you think I'm right when I say I think Joe Frazier would have beaten the brakes off the Rock?

Bread’s Response: Sonny Liston is very underrated. Head to head I think he beats 95% of our best 100 heavyweights ever. But Ali is in the 5 percentile. Ali is the best big man of them all. The Ali from 65-67 is the GUY.
Joe Frazier is creates too much momentum for  Marciano, Too much forceful energy. That fight would look like Gene Fulmer vs Carmen Basilio. The bigger man who has better twitch fibers would win butit would be savage. Marciano fights to the death.

 

Did you read or listen to Floyd Mayweather’s comments about Adrien Broner? He seems frustrated because Broner just doesn’t listen. From a trainer’s perspective how do you feel about certain types of personalities? Who are the type of guys you would like to train and who are the type you wouldn’t like to train? Is my take on Floyd’s frustration accurate?
Bread’s Response: Great question. Yes I read Floyd’s comments and I agree with him 100%. I also think you are 100% accurate. As the saying goes a hard head makes a soft ass.

Floyd Mayweather is 12 years older than Adrien Broner. He was winning a bronze medal when Broner was in the 2nd grade. He’s been there. Broner chooses to idolize Mayweather but he doesn’t choose to listen to him. No disrespect to Broner but I will call this what it is. He’s a foolish young man.

It becomes very frustrating for any mentor, when his young study becomes defiant. Broner is a part of a generation of young men who lack character and were not raised correctly. But I won’t put it all on how they were raised because at some point you have to know right from wrong and I don’t know how Broner was raised. I can also give many examples of fine young men from broken homes so there is no excuses.

But in an overall sense you have these young men who talk while their elders are talking. In the interview Broner allegedly told Floyd, I got this, I got this, Instead of shutting up and listening. Now the guy who he supposedly got this with, Maidana, is going to be fighting his big bro for big money.

They want to be confrontational with correct guidance and that’s just stupid. I heard Broner yelling at his corner during the fight. Let’s look at Floyd Mayweather, Shawn Porter and Shane Mosley. You see how respectful they carry their coaches in boxing related scenarios?


They were raised to respect! Broner is not a bad kid but he doesn’t get it. He is associated with the most influential man in boxing in Al Haymon and he is a protégé of the most successful boxing athlete of this generation, Floyd Mayweather. He has not seemed to pick up anything useful for down the line in life.


I personally think Broner has formed too many lazy counterproductive habits and his days are numbered at the top. Watch him spar on youtube, he fights the same exact way. He’s a drinker and partier and he doesn’t listen. That’s a terrible recipe and Floyd knows it.


If you ask me what type of fighters I would love to train. I don’t care if a fighter is cocky or arrogant, that’s a good thing. I don’t care if a fighter is from a broken home that motivates him. But I don’t like disrespectful fighters who think they know it all, Fighters who will defy you for the sake of defying you. See everyone says that people in the business do fighters dirty but here is the flip side. When you have one that knows it all, you stop caring about them personally and start caring about the business side. Fighters don’t like to hear that but it’s the truth. Obvioulsy I want a talented, quick leaner. But I like fighters who are talented with character also. Fighters who have respect, self motivation and integrity.


For an example of a young guy who has it on the ball. Jermell Charlo. I saw him in San Antonio. He told me how much maintenance work he does on his own to his body. He told me how he trained for 3 months for his fight with Gabe Rosado. The kid is intelligent, self motivated and he appears to be respectful. I have seen him on social network up on a consistent basis at 4am working. Ronnie Shields is not with him, making him do anything. He’s up on his own. That young man gets it and he’s going to be rewarded for his work and his grind. Mark my words. Character has many layers…. If I ever have to go against him with a fighter I know we have to be 100% prepared because of his integrity and character. Integrity, do you do the right thing when no one is looking……

 

Hey, big fan of mailbag, wanted to ask if Marcos has a chance of outboxing danny garcia. Hes a big underdog and i might take those odds.
Also on canelo vs angulo, i wasnt impressed withe canelo. We found out what we always knew, hes a strong combination puncher with good hand speed. Angulo was a heavy bag that night. Alot of fans impressed with canelo but I learned nothing new.
Bread’s Response: Danny Garcia is going to win this fight like he does all of his others. He gets it. He knows how to win.  He also has character. He listens to his father and he respects him 100%. Garcia will go further than Broner because of his character not his ability.

 

 

Dam Bread I picked Angulo also. What do you think happened? Do you think he’s shot? I remember you saying you hoped he didn’t leave it all in the Lara fight. Where does he go? Where does Canelo go?
Bread’s Response: I thought Angulo could muster up a little more than he did. But boy was I wrong. That was one of the most lackluster performances I have seen a PPV fight in a long time. He took a terrible, life shortening type of beating. Angulo’s reaction time, was bad, he had no snap in his body whatsoever. He seems like a great person but unfortunately I think he’s shot. You don’t come back from that.


When I saw that he rehydrated up to 174 I was worried about my prediction. I have a theory that some may not like. There is a reason why Mexican fighters are not AS successful over 147lbs. The reason being is it’s harder to jump weight divisions at welter, super welter, middle and super middle. So you get these good fighters like Angulo and Margarito who are already not athletic, but they have become too big for the weight. They can’t move up but so far because the guys in the divisions above them are too big and athletic. So they lose parts of their careers trying to make weight.


I know Canelo had trouble making weight but he’s in his prime. Canelo also tried like hell to be a welterweight and just settled in at 154, but he doesn’t want to go to 160. Can you see a trend, Fernando Vargas....Angulo looks like at old 31 and to gain 20lbs in one day is troublesome in my eyes. He looked like he was slogging. I felt bad for him because his physical ability couldn’t match his tremendous will power.


Canelo can fight. They don’t have to be so careful with Canelo. Always fighting smaller guys who can’t punch is not necessary. People have anointed Lara as the best in the division but he shut out Austin Trout, who is a boxer with no rhythm, regular power and average hand speed. I’m not saying Lara is not the best in the division I’m just saying he has to prove it. I think Canelo is 50/50 or better with anybody at 154. I hear he’s fighting Molina in July.

 

 

Wassup bread some thoughts about the fight and some questions. Ok I know u probably don't believe the whole conspiracy of fights being fixed u probably got all kinds of emails but Saturday night was tough to not believe this fight wasn't fixed from the 1st rd till the fight was stopped Angulo was not throwing his punches with any intentions their was times in the fight where Angulo could have caught canelo with some hard left hooks was their for him but he swung half-ass and when he did throw punches the commentators was like here comes Angulo coming back but he wasn't really turning on his punches were the commentators not seeing this? Angulo couldn't cut the ring off against flat footed canelo and he was getting gassed but he could cut the ring off of lara who is a slick boxer which he knocked down twice? Canelo didn't impress me still looks the same with that being said prime cotto would beat him maybe but im crazy but if cotto gets by Sergio I still think he still has a chance against canelo..So now my questions did u think the fight was fixed and where do canelo and Angulo go next and who u leaning towards with the cotto vs Sergio fight.. thanks for the time

Danny
perth amboy,nj
Bread’s Response: No I don’t think the fight was fixed. I think Angulo like Erik Morales vs Marcos Maidana put everything into his fight with Lara and had nothing left to give. If that fight was fixed you don’t take the shots that Angulo took. Canelo could have killed him hitting him like that. That was absolutely brutal. One of the worst one sided beating you will see,To the body and head. In a fixed fight I would assume he would have went down much earlier. Angulo just couldn’t do what many expected him to do but that doesn’t mean it was fixed. It just means you are disappointed. I am disappointed also, if I pick a fight wrong, people text me and call me 100 times to let me know. But I’m not willing to say it was a fixed fight. You win some and you lose some.


For some crazy reason I’m leaning towards Cotto but that’s not my official pick. I don’t know what to think of Martinez. I don’t know if his injuries are exaggerated because he doesn’t want to fight GGG or because of his recent struggles. We shall see....

 

Breadman,
"The game may have broke him" that is one of my favorite lines from HBO's "The Wire" and what I thought when I watched Angulo fight. 1st he looked sluggish and subdued at the weigh in as if he worked too hard to make 154 and his abs and his back looked as if he was a 180lber sweating down to 154.
then in the fight he just didn't have the same vigor or snap or punch resistance that he had with Lara and Kirkland. part of that was canelo had good footwork and was dropping some heavy leather on him from round one, but it made me think those other wars took too much out of him. two other points,1. in the lara fight he routinely switched to southpaw--couldn't he have done this to stop canelo from escaping to the left. 2. for all of the speed work and track work virgil hunter had him doing, it seems as though they would have been better off doing real footwork in the ring. his in ability to cut off the ring was glaring and I think that shows why it is better for boxers to do functional training i.e.chase a fast lightweight or amir khan around the ring to learn to cut the ring off versus working with a Russian track coach and jumping over hurdles. thoughts?
Billy Bomaye
Bread’s Response: I agree with Part 1 of your statement.
As for Part 2 it’s hard to determine because I assume they could have been doing fundamental boxing work also. As for the track work. There is nothing wrong with sprints. Fighters should work on their explosiveness. A series of all out 40 yd sprints is probably the best thing a fighter can do for his explosiveness.  The work they showed on camera is a small microcosm of what they were doing. I’m sure they were wind sprinting.


Now I don’t know why Angulo didn’t look explosive. There could many, many things. I personally think the biggest reason is you can’t keep shedding large amounts of weight like he sheds. He rehydrated up to 174 in one day. So let’s just assume where he walks around at. Theoretically it has to be at least 5% higher than 174. That’s dangerous.

 

I think Deontay Wilder is a fraud. His competition is absolutely terrible. I saw him get kod as an amateur on youtube. I think Scott who is from Philly will outbox him and ko him. What do you think?
Bread’s Response: I’m not sold on Deontay Wilder. I do believe he was matched as soft as a 30-0 fighter can be. His level of competition has been dismal. But I do believe his punching power is real. I believe his step in straight right hand is the TRUTH.


I think Scott is a decent boxer and he has solid fundamentals but it scares me that he took so long to step up. He’s been a pro forever and he compiled one of the best records in boxing like 34-0, without really stepping up. So that makes me wonder if he has confidence problems. Now that he has taken a loss, they are sort of throwing him in there.


Now with a guy like Wilder obviously they are super careful with his matchmaking. So here is what I’m assuming. “They” saw how Scott couldn’t avoid Chisora’s right hand. How he leaned over to his right to avoid it and it caught him on that vulnerable spot behind his ear. Chisora is not as tall, nor does he get the leverage Wilder get.


My human guess is Wilder lands that same right hand to the side/back of Scott’s head and kos him.

 


 

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